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language is sumthing used to communicate if u dont understand r or u, u r pretty stupid
i agree kitchen junkie, the emo thing was an excuse for geeks to get sum credit, i do know what the hell im talking about, you just never listen to me, im not gonna listen to emo, this fad has gone and you cant get it back, its over, this whole dream is not what i wanted, its what you wanted, i never wanted it, its just that i never had the guts to tell you !!!!!!!!
When does my music choice belong to me ?
out of all comments on this topic lee's is the only developed and correct statement.
intelectual discussion about pop punk? we should all be on question time!
I dont no how many people wud understand carlos99 last post cause i dont think many people will realise the intertextual from Good Riddance anyone that did, in the words of sum of the geeks on this forum,
"10 scene points for u"
to be cashed in at the west marsh for b ing part of the scene makin u better than the rest of us who listen to punk all year round
im suprised you got my good riddance intertextual reference ( see Fat Music Vol. IV , song 7 ) it is therefore easy to see that you are a true punk, not like the fair weather punks who turn metal in winter [img]confused.gif[/img] wots that all about ? But im sorry, i dont want those crappy scene points that people talk about, they are sad pathetic geeks who have to bribe people wiv fake rewards to try and make people come see there shows. Get a grip, i dont need scene points coz there arn't enough good gigs to go to around here, people who do collect em must have about 10 between em all.
i got it cos im clever an that. i like emo but i also like punk, im a geek but im also suave as fuck.
goths are shit, thats all you need to know.
Oh nice 1 skimmed milk, uve neva listened to punk in ur life, i saw you the other nite dancing to attomic kitten, u suck and will neva be part of the gy PUNK circle that kept the faith wen all the emo dicks left us, and now ur all slowly crawling back to us hahahahahahahaha u little depressed retards, go away, u'll never be accepted back. go away and cry sumwhere
remember "worldwide hardcore punk you CANT, SLOW, DOWNnnnnnnnnnnnnnn"
HAHAHA, thinks he knows me boys.
was you at cartergate back in the day? was you fuck. you dont know shit kidda,so less yer mouthin off or im gonna bust you up, faggot.
(Mike, who is it so i can bust him up?)
Yes i fukin was, Pinto were my fav you little geek and good old silver spoon lol
actually my emo geek friend, we were there wen greebo played with silverspoon n luna suit
but does that matter? we were listnin to punk bak then, u r accusing us of being in the newb group wen from the start we av done wat we like
for one moment the weight of being punk dont seem so bad .... well during summer at least
silverspon sucked...but well done carlos for the good riddance link, that song is killer! deffinately one of their best
Do people seriously tot up scene points???I thought that was a joke........
rarara Im more punk cos I was at so and so...mer mer mer
Fuck you all...I can remember seeing Kung Fu Joe and Beaker at schnapps barge...mind you several people claim to have been going to punk gigs at this time...which is funny cos they would have been about 12 at the time(and as a schnapps regular I knew they didnt let 12 year olds in).
Kitchen Junkie...I can understand what you are saying....I was merely pointing out that text speak is the tool of the ignorant.
hahahaha, ooh, clever boys, who is carlos then, i want it out with him, violence solves erything.
email me at [email protected] and we can sort out a date/location
after school at the bus stop.....
Ha ha, Ants you old school trooper!! [img]smile.gif[/img] Stu has a pic of you dressed up like kiss in the schnapps!! ha ha! you look ded young!
Ok, Ok for all you peeps out there, memory test.. for 25 scene points (benders) who remembers 3rd rate? and for bonus points when and where did they play in grimsby?
I never dressed as kiss..................I did as the crow one halloween though...
dont ask questions like that, it makes spen come back on here!
but on another note, i think its funny that carlos99 and kitchen junkie sit there and go on about how they have never stop'd listening to punk, i love punk i still love all the music i used to listen to, but i like to think that my musical tastes will develop and change giving me a wider choie of music, and to keep an open mind. its better than sitting there waiting for then next album by one of the few bands you like.
at the moment in grimsby there arn't enough bands to put on a punk gig or a hc gig so surely it can be worked together?
Do you need to have been at gigs many years ago, to be a true punk, i mean is there a waiting period to become one? do i have to attend several catergate gigs to become one? is there somewhere i can apply? I think( as if you care) that punk or whatever you want to label your sorry asses, resdies within, its a mentality that resides within( new age eh?) its how you life your life, its how you interact with people, its about what makes you want to rip it up with your mates, it about having a good time, its about getting along, and charting your life, i was too young to go to the cartergate or to schnapps, but i would have loved to, ive gone to all the gigs i can get to or afford,(can i have my scene points please?)but it dosent make me anymore punk than those who have only ever gone to a few gigs at the beachy, as long as they are going cos they appreciate the music and the atmosphere, and arent going cos its in vouge, well i think that they are punk as fuck, or at least as punk as all your sorry asses.love
Oh yeah, so it was ants... he he sorry you look like a kiss doll [img]wink.gif[/img]
I agree with the last guy, (did I just gain or lose scene points?) When gigs where put on at the schnapps and baker street, them type of gig..... there weren't many punk or H/C bands about... but no one cared about the different tastes it was a gig.. mix of H/C punk and rock... sometime even indie.... but they where ace gig's.. thats why loads of people remember the places... [img]smile.gif[/img] we was gonna buy the schnapps and do it up at one point.. the it sunk.. he he [img]smile.gif[/img]
Thats sort of the point...when those gigs were on before ...the 'scene' was dying...there wasnt enough custom for everything...so people appreciated what was put on more....now people have loads and the younger ones dont always appreciate what a change that is........
Sorry Ants, I gotta disagree there. The scene was far from dying back then, it was just more 'underground' I think. Not as many were into it. The scene started to die when Big Ass started to put on a gig every week. It became meaningless. I know a lot of people agree with me on that point, even if they don't say so on here. Big Ass, although a success in some form, was the beginning of the death of the GY scene, and led to what we have now, a scene stagnant and depleted.
Also, I remember going to see Pinto, Gan and Kung Fu Joe (still got the flier somewhere) with Rob Birkett about 6 years ago. And I saw Kung Fu Joe's last gig at the White Hart. I remember 3rd Rate too Dunks ^_~
I was once almost crushed by crowd surfing in the Schnapps Barge...The ceiling wasn't very high... ^_^
After One Car Pile-Up's first show (Schnapps Barge again), me and Jonny went home and ordered kebabs. But having being stood right next to the PA speaker all night, we couldn't hear sod-all, and the kebab bloke drove off before we could answer the door. Bugger.
"I don’t think that period was a bad thing, it was just what everybody was listening to, so that’s what happened," Belote said. "When people get older and the scene gets growing more, or whatever you want to call it, the scene gets more diverse. I’m almost thinking there’s not going to be your Fat sound in a couple of years and everybody will be doing their own thing and you’ll be respected for doing that."
andy belote, whippersnapper
i call your attention to this part.....
"When people get older and the scene gets growing more, or whatever you want to call it, the scene gets more diverse. "
its a common problem , these guys are reffering to the rise of the west coast fat wreck chords sound in the usa, and how they were trying to diversify within themselves, to try and help the punk scene out of the hole it seemed to be heading into.....a lesson there i think
basically, however it used to be, however much we'd love it to go back to "how it was"....this would involve having the same experiences, the same emotions as we had inour fond memoies.
the problem with this is the fact that these can differ wildly from person to person.
we need to accept that this is a town with alot of ppl who have different musical background, and therefore different tastes. no one in this argument (i dont mean to say this has become an argument, lets say debate)...sorry debate..is wrong or right.
personally the happiest ive ever been at a gig was the levanta, injustice gigs, but i wouldnt wanna go and watch these bands now, i simply wouldnt enjoy it.
people change.things change.
sorry if that reads like a bag of shit
To clarify...I'm not sure what people mean when they talk about 'the scene'.For me it is to do with all forms of rock music and involves EVERYone who goes out...wether or not they are active and regardless of how many records their favourite bands sell....bear in mind I do see stuff like rock nights as an indication of how busy 'the scene' is...because businesses will only cater when there is a market to make money from....they dont care about scenes at all....they want to make money...the scene did die a few years ago...everything stopped due to lack of interest...the gigs still went on yes,and the reason they were bust was because they were the only thing available.If you look now...there is loads on..2 rock nights per week...at least one gig..often 2 per week and a businessman spending ?150,000 of his own money(no loans or anything...the guy isnt using credit options)on opening a members only club aimed exclusively at the rock crowd....music tastes are wayyyyy more varied than they ever were...partly because there is more and more styles out there..so stagnant?Depends on your oint of view and personal tastes...Depleted?No way...the rock scene is bigger than ever before in this town and it is the constant support of everyone that goes out that we have to thank for that.
Not to bash the pop punk genre in the slightest...but the very nature of the original topic is something that can put people off a certain style...if they are made to feel like they are looked at with disdain for getting into something later than everyone else...some people wont bother..because of the attitudes....hell welcome them in...because the more new fans it gets...the more it gets catered for in gigs and stuff.
Nostalgia can be a great thing for getting people to gigs...but too much of it can be a bad thing...because it then does become stagnant...I mean how many people would go see MU330 if they played here again?LOads.....but if there was loads of gigs of this nature..interest would wane..getting stuck in your ways is something that will happen to us all...but its best to hold it off for as long as possible...
Old SCHOOOOOOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
I remember Imbalance's first gig i think....Wellington Arms??? Might noit have been the very first but i know it was an early one.
Gan were fucking ace...ive still got their tape somewhere! And Third Rate...proper Propaghandi style thrashy punk.
Ahhhh, Fallout....and bless Spen. I used to fucking love those gigs. Loads of energy and loads of people having stacks of fun.
But, i noticed back then the older guys and gals had their divisions, as i feel a lot of people have nowadays. Its a shame because we are all basically supporting a similar vein of music, whether it be rock, punk, metal,whatever.
When i was younger i couldnt understand why they all argued about useless information, and now i see why. Even i am guilty of this by typing this message.
And, to add to the conversation regarding punk and its ever growing sub genres list; i can see why it is for the best. I think most people would be soooo bored of Fat Wreck Punk if some of the bands didnt branch out into new style, techniques rhythms and vocal types. I myself still listen to bands like Good Riddance, NOFX, NU4AN, etc, but now i also like to listen to more experimental, more dare i say 'soft' music. This also reflects in what i want to play as a musician as playing odd timings, weird chords and strange bass runs interests me and makes me want to play more.
I think my pointless post should now cease.
I'd love to see MU330 again... they rocked when we played with em.. that was a good gig... dave you say big ass wrecked the "scene" but personally I think fun with matches (smoke the profit an' that) had a lot to do with it before then.
well if anyone can get in touch...if there still together......we can put em on at Matrix.....
Nice idea on paper...but there would be too much bitchin about who plays what position on the bill.....
draw it out a hat, using raffle tickets, and wot ever number u get, thats wen you go on [img]graemlins/thumbs_up.gif[/img]
sounds like a good idea, and a fair method...well, thats what we did at Joes gig.hehe
it would be nice to have another all-dayer in gy, with gy bands ONLY, and have all genres....i think theres enough bands to fit the bill......it is quite silly arguin about, i class all the above genres of music, punk, metal,emo etc as one...thats alternative...so i say someone should organise a gig, not me cos im lazy, but someone with too much time on there hands....it would rock and u know it.
and poor andy tyrell still opened.
god bless him.
If the bands concerned are prepared to do it...then yes.......
I'd really like to see mu330 again...I have Chumps On Parade kicking around somewhere...Must go and dig it out now...
la la la laa
la la la la la laa
la la
la la
la laaaaa!!
What an ACE song!!!
I'm quite
new on the scene (a 'newbo' or
whatever), a lot of the people I hang
around with are 4 or
more years older than me
and have been to the gigs
you're talking about, i've been into
punk (of most types) for a fair
few years, i'm a bit
too young
to have seen most of the bands that
many of you are using to
prove
you are old school GY scene, and I know
who a lot of
you are, infact I talk
to a few of
you and I know you've been going out for years, but I,
personally, consider 'how punk you
are', if its possible
to be
more punk than someone else, to be based on attitude -- I dont
mean how
many flags you've burned in your life
or how many times you've
kicked litter
bins in the street to prove you're 'fucking
the system' -- I just think that
punk's a lot more than
just a
musical style and/or style
of dress, just because I've only
been going out for
a couple of
years, just
because
I haven't seen
Pinto before or because
I only saw One Car Pile-up for the
first time
the other week does that itself mean I'm
not as punk as those
who've been going to
punk gigs for
more
than two years, who've
seen Pinto, who used to
get pissed with One Car
Pile-up? Personally
I think
not,
but thats for others to
decide I
guess...
shut up mike, your not old school
back in the day
kill the fuckin bill
shut up mackie! [img]smile.gif[/img] he he.....
Scrobbo ya dead!
<font color="#a62a2a" size="1">[ July 09, 2002 03:39 AM: Message edited by: Mr C0ff33 ]</font>
Fucking kill the bill n tha